tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6963204.post112051706454702448..comments2023-10-25T10:20:31.791+01:00Comments on philgoodacre.blogspot: reflections on "creating church in the emerging culture"Philhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06650338713106764515noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6963204.post-1121093004001376862005-07-11T15:43:00.000+01:002005-07-11T15:43:00.000+01:00Thanks for the comments everyone.St.Valdez - inter...Thanks for the comments everyone.<BR/><BR/>St.Valdez - interesting thoughts on how we 'measure success'. It's something I've been giving some thought to in relation to my own youth work. In my work I try and focus on building relationships, with young people, their families etc. But measuring how successful I am being is kinda tricky.<BR/><BR/>I probably agree with you that we should be looking at evaluation as against measuring success. I know I've been influenced by a number of writers/thinkers who discuss praxis models - Laurie Green's Let's Do Theology, Liberation theologians such as Gutierrez and the Boff brothers.<BR/><BR/>You talk about efficiency, and I apologise if what I say sounds a bit picky, but is a drive to be efficient in our ministry a bit 'modern' as well? - I'm thinking about stuff John Drane talks about in his 'McDonaldization of the Church'. When people talk about efficiency alarm bells start ringing in my head - bums on seats on a Sunday morning, how many kids have been 'saved' etc. <BR/><BR/>Just some thoughts - interested to hear what anyone else has to say.....Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06650338713106764515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6963204.post-1120761109203887702005-07-07T19:31:00.000+01:002005-07-07T19:31:00.000+01:00Thank you Phil Goodnotes (sorry). Nice point about...Thank you Phil Goodnotes (sorry). Nice point about the haves and have nots in regard to computers and internet access. You hear about this divide in business and education but not so much in the church. But this brings to mind two aspects I heard of recently where one church was proposing to put in a computer lab for home schoolers to use as a low cost alternative to building a school. And another church where they put in computers for vocational training so people could develop computer skills for the workplace.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6963204.post-1120748765396659142005-07-07T16:06:00.000+01:002005-07-07T16:06:00.000+01:00Thanks for those concise but clear notes from our ...Thanks for those concise but clear notes from our down-under brother. God continues to teach us what it really means to be His church. I'm thankful that He has also given us the desire to continue learning.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6963204.post-1120745404473668562005-07-07T15:10:00.000+01:002005-07-07T15:10:00.000+01:00I would like to add point 5 to the above list whic...I would like to add point 5 to the above list which is:- Moving in the heavenly places together.<BR/>If we are not truly growing into new creations in Christ we are just repeating all the old religious stuff in a new guise under a different cultural aspect or time and it's merely arty-farty diversion stuff.<BR/>And I speak as an artist!<BR/>Bolty.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6963204.post-1120705695024587602005-07-07T04:08:00.000+01:002005-07-07T04:08:00.000+01:00i will say that one way technology is cool is that...i will say that one way technology is cool is that i'm in ohio (usa) hearing from a guy in the u.k. who attending teaching by another guy in the u.k.<BR/><BR/>five years ago, never would have connected!danny2https://www.blogger.com/profile/13010556674654842010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6963204.post-1120568069850773322005-07-05T13:54:00.000+01:002005-07-05T13:54:00.000+01:00thanks for the notes Phil. I appreciate that you ...thanks for the notes Phil. I appreciate that you took the time to post much of what Andrew talked about... <BR/><BR/>It's also good to remind the speaker of what he talked about :) I'll also be posting a link. <BR/><BR/>Blessings.Randy Buisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01663135907402873552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6963204.post-1120566904597230402005-07-05T13:35:00.000+01:002005-07-05T13:35:00.000+01:00philwow - thanks so much for writing this down. pe...phil<BR/><BR/>wow - thanks so much for writing this down. people are asking me what i taught and so i think i will be naughty and just put a link to your post. hope you dont mind.<BR/><BR/>see you again some time?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com